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Originally Posted by Tbucit A sunnen hone for connecting rods can do the job. Thats how i did my very ...


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Old 07-17-2008, 05:20 PM
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Re: When will the madness end??

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A sunnen hone for connecting rods can do the job. Thats how i did my very set. Have you tried an automotive machine shop?

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I have tried every automotive machine shop within 100 miles of Amarillo.
they all tell me the same thing......... .741 is too small. they do not have a hone small enough. even the guys with the Sunnen machines tell me they don't go that small. I called an "old" front end shop, they don't have anything small enough.
so I guess "size does matter" after all

tried O'reilly, AutoZoo, Advanced, Napa, even a couple parts houses here that specialize in "race and off-road" parts, nobody has a brake hone or "dingle-berry" hone that small.
called a couple small engine repair places.....same story.... .741 is too small.
so once again, these spindles have thrown a monkey-wrench into my build. but now I'm too far into it to change axles. that would mean buying a new axle, new spindles, new brake brackets, etc.

screw it, I'm going drinkin'
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Old 07-17-2008, 06:47 PM
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Re: When will the madness end??

First of all this is not a deal breaker there will be many more "what or why the hell" but I am assuming that these are the early ford round spindles, is that correct? If so I just measuured a set here and they are more like.810 to .815 so maybe we are talking apples and oranges. A little more info and I think we can get this worked out for you. Oh and BTW I have found that beer does help somtimes

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Old 07-17-2008, 08:26 PM
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Re: When will the madness end??

Keep one thing in mind if you go the cyllnder hone route. You are not just resizing the bushings for a proper kingpin fit but you are also truing them. It's like align boring an engine block. When I built mine I used a hone the first time and ended up putting the kingpin in a bind. Fortunately there is a machine shop near here that has the proper tool so I was able to get it right on my second attempt.
The reamer the guy used on mine had two adjustable cutters on a shaft so that he could do both bushings at the same time so he didn't have to worry too much about setup. I did a search or "ford kingpin bushing reamer" and just came up with one. Etools has a reamer that does one bushing at a time for just under $32. I think you would have a heck of a time clamping the spindle into a vice making sure that the X and Y were both vertical. I'm sure there are others out there. They probably aren't too easy to find. King Pin Reamer Pilot

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Old 07-17-2008, 08:47 PM
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Re: When will the madness end??

Oops. That was just the pilot. McMaster-Carr has adjustable-diameter reamers in several different lengths and they have the pilot.
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Old 07-17-2008, 10:02 PM
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Re: When will the madness end??

My reamer is .812" I think what you have is an Econoline pin. There has got to be an Econoline reamer somewhere. DON'T use a wheel cyl hone or a dingle berry hone. This is like align boring a block. The bushings have to be honed or reamed at the same time to make sure the holes are on centers.

Did you call Total and see if they can ream them?


here ya go try these folks. http://www.chadwickreamers.com/spiral_king.php
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Old 07-17-2008, 10:25 PM
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Re: When will the madness end??

I've got 3 of the old fashioned kingpin reamers that guide off of one bushing while reaming the other one. Unfortunately, none are the size that you need. One is for .775" to .895", another is for .830" to .960", and the last is for .890" to 1.020". Those are the top three in the photo. The other one is what der Spieler has shown in the link. It is an adjustable reamer with a guide pilot. The guide replaces the lower nut. This ones range is from 23/32" to 25/32" which converts to .7188" to .7812".



That one should do what you need done. The only problem is that Amarillo isn't any where near Kansas City. I use this tool on a pretty regular basis for reaming oilite bushings in brake pedal assemblies. At present, I don't have need for it for a few days. If you wanted to use it and foot the U.P.S. charge to return it, I'd be happy to help you out. PM me your address and I'll get it headed your way.

A word of caution...These aren't the easiest thing to use. You make your adjustments in about 1/8 of a turn at a time to keep from digging in and gouging the bushing. Always turn it clockwise even when backing it out. As you can see this one has had some hard use over the years as the squared end has been lost. I use it in the lathe so I just chuck up the shaft in the 3 jaw. For doing it by hand, I use a tap handle and tighten the peewaddin out of it.
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Old 07-18-2008, 01:16 AM
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Re: When will the madness end??

Adjustable King Pin Reamer - CT21 also http://www.chadwickreamers.com/products.php

pricey though.. i bet you can find it somewhere cheaper if you look.. you need to hit the fracional size of 25/32..


also mcmaster carr has them... you have to buy the reamer, and you have to buy the pilot seperate.. when you go to mcmaster carr on thier menu go to reamers, then go to replaceable blade expansion hand reamers, then you'll have a choice of angle blade reamer, straight blade reamer, and also the pilot.. all of its on the same page...

if i needed to buy one i would get it from mcmaster carr if i were you..
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Old 07-18-2008, 07:31 AM
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Re: When will the madness end??

take it to an old shop that does truck front ends. Anybody that works on a Ford Twin I Beam oughta be able to do it.
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Old 07-18-2008, 09:25 AM
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Re: When will the madness end??

They are in fact TP repops of Econoline spindles.

I think I found a place that can do it.

he actually took the spindle, walked out to the shop and "test fit" his hone/reamer. should have them back tomorrow.

old machinist that works outta his home garage, stumbled upon him.

fingers crossed

thanks for all the input / info Guys, I really appreciate it.
according to my wife, I'm not the most patient person.
guess it comes with the territory.
I've been a paramedic for about 23 years, and am not accustomed to waiting for things to happen......usually I'm praying they slow down

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